Venue: International Exhibition Centre, Kyiv
Hosts: Oleksandr Skichko, Volodymyr Ostapchuk and Timur Miroshnychenko
Date: Saturday 13 May 2017
Winner: Portugal - Salvador Sobral "Amar Pelos Dois" (758 points)
My main Eurovision Song Contest 2017 Grand Final review, including the opening act, songs, interval acts, jury voting and rapid announcement of the televoting results is available here. This supplement is intended to be read in addition to, and not instead of, that report.
N.B. Any use of "tonight" or "this evening" throughout this post means Saturday 13 May 2017. Any use of "Tuesday" means Tuesday 9 May 2017, whereas any reference to "Thursday" means Thursday 11 May 2017. All times in this post are in BST.
To make this report easier to read, I've split it into sections. Click the applicable link below to jump to the section you want to read:
Winner and Top Marks
Country Groups
Points to United Kingdom
Jury and Televoting Comparison
Alternative Voting Presentation
Conclusion
Winner and Top Marks
Points Levels to Winner
Jury Voting
The 18 countries which awarded 12 jury points to Portugal (who won the jury vote and overall) were: Armenia, Czech Republic, France, Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, San Marino, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, The Netherlands, United Kingdom. 21 other countries gave between 5 and 10 jury points to Portugal. Interestingly Portugal received at least one of each points level from 5 to 12 jury points inclusive (5-6-7-8-10-12), but no 1, 2, 3 or 4 point scores. Only two countries (other than Portugal itself) gave no jury points at all to Portugal, those being Bulgaria and Montenegro. The number of times Portugal received each particular points level (or no points at all) from the other juries is summarised in the following table: Points Level | Jury to Portugal | Portugal Pts |
0 | 2 | 0 |
1 | 0 | 0 |
2 | 0 | 0 |
3 | 0 | 0 |
4 | 0 | 0 |
5 | 3 | 15 |
6 | 2 | 12 |
7 | 3 | 21 |
8 | 6 | 48 |
10 | 7 | 70 |
12 | 18 | 216 |
TOTAL | 41 | 382 |
Televoting
The 12 countries which awarded 12 televote points to Portugal (who won the televote and overall) were: Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Israel, Lithuania, Norway, Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands. All 29 other countries gave between 5 and 10 televote points to Portugal. Interestingly Portugal received at least one of each points level from 5 to 12 televote points inclusive (5-6-7-8-10-12), but no 1, 2, 3 or 4 point scores. Thus Portugal received at least 5 televote points from every other country. The number of times Portugal received each particular points level in the televoting is summarised in the following table: Points Level | Tele to Portugal | Portugal Pts |
0 | 0 | 0 |
1 | 0 | 0 |
2 | 0 | 0 |
3 | 0 | 0 |
4 | 0 | 0 |
5 | 2 | 10 |
6 | 1 | 6 |
7 | 8 | 56 |
8 | 10 | 80 |
10 | 8 | 80 |
12 | 12 | 144 |
TOTAL | 41 | 376 |
Although Portugal received considerably fewer sets of 12 points on televoting compared to jury voting, this was largely compensated for by Portugal receiving one more set of 10 points on televoting than jury voting, and considerably more 7s and 8s on televoting than jury voting. Consequently Portugal ended up with 376 televoting points, which was just 6 points less than its jury total of 382 points.
Number of 12s Received
Jury Voting
15 of the 26 finalists received at least one 12 point vote from the juries. The number of 12 point votes received by each of those 15 countries from the juries is shown in the table below. 12 Points to | No of 12s Received | Total from 12s |
Portugal | 18 | 216 |
Bulgaria | 4 | 48 |
Sweden | 3 | 36 |
Azerbaijan | 2 | 24 |
Belarus | 2 | 24 |
Greece | 2 | 24 |
Italy | 2 | 24 |
The Netherlands | 2 | 24 |
Austria | 1 | 12 |
Belgium | 1 | 12 |
Cyprus | 1 | 12 |
Hungary | 1 | 12 |
Norway | 1 | 12 |
Romania | 1 | 12 |
United Kingdom | 1 | 12 |
Notice that the highest number of 12-point scores (18 altogether) was received by Portugal, who won the jury vote with 382 points and overall with 758 points. Bulgaria, which finished second in the jury vote with 278 points and second overall with 615 points, received the second highest number of 12-point scores (4 altogether). The third highest number of 12-point scores (3 altogether) was received by Sweden, who finished third in the jury vote with 218 points, but ended up fifth overall with 344 points. Out of the seven countries which received one 12-point score from the juries, Cyprus, Hungary and Romania finished on the right hand side of the scoreboard (bottom 13) in the jury voting. Clearly one 12-point jury score wasn't enough to guarantee a top 10 or top 13 place in the jury voting.
Televoting
13 of the 26 finalists received at least one 12 point vote from the televoting. The number of 12 point votes received by each of those 13 countries in the televoting is shown in the table below. 12 Points to | No of 12s Received | Total from 12s |
Portugal | 12 | 144 |
Bulgaria | 7 | 84 |
Moldova | 5 | 60 |
Belgium | 4 | 48 |
Croatia | 2 | 24 |
Cyprus | 2 | 24 |
Hungary | 2 | 24 |
Italy | 2 | 24 |
Romania | 2 | 24 |
Azerbaijan | 1 | 12 |
France | 1 | 12 |
Greece | 1 | 12 |
Sweden | 1 | 12 |
Notice that the highest number of 12-point scores (12 altogether) was received by Portugal, who won the televote with 376 points and overall with 758 points. Bulgaria, which finished second in the televote with 337 points and second overall with 615 points, received the second highest number of 12-point scores (7 altogether). The third highest number of 12-point scores (5 altogether) was received by Moldova, who finished third in the televote with 264 points, and third overall with 374 points. Out of the 4 countries which received one 12-point score from the viewers, Greece finished in the bottom 13 in the televoting. Clearly one 12-point televote score wasn't enough to guarantee a top 10 or top 13 place in the televoting.
All 12 Points
Jury Voting
The complete list of 12 jury point scores and jury points awarded to Portugal (jury vote winner and outright winner), and Bulgaria (jury vote second place and overall second place) is shown below: # | From Country | 12 Points to | Jury to Portugal | Jury to Bulgaria |
7 | Albania | Italy | 6 | 10 |
20 | Armenia | Portugal | 12 | 0 |
24 | Australia | United Kingdom | 7 | 8 |
11 | Austria | The Netherlands | 8 | 10 |
2 | Azerbaijan | Belarus | 8 | 2 |
33 | Belarus | Bulgaria | 10 | 12 |
37 | Belgium | Sweden | 8 | 10 |
21 | Bulgaria | Austria | 0 | n/a |
40 | Croatia | Hungary | 7 | 10 |
32 | Cyprus | Greece | 8 | 7 |
41 | Czech Republic | Portugal | 12 | 2 |
10 | Denmark | Sweden | 10 | 4 |
18 | Estonia | Bulgaria | 8 | 12 |
9 | F.Y.R. Macedonia | Bulgaria | 10 | 12 |
14 | Finland | Sweden | 8 | 6 |
15 | France | Portugal | 12 | 5 |
31 | Georgia | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
26 | Germany | Norway | 10 | 8 |
16 | Greece | Cyprus | 5 | 2 |
35 | Hungary | Portugal | 12 | 10 |
22 | Iceland | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
30 | Ireland | Belgium | 5 | 10 |
5 | Israel | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
25 | Italy | Azerbaijan | 5 | 2 |
4 | Latvia | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
17 | Lithuania | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
8 | Malta | Italy | 10 | 8 |
19 | Moldova | Romania | 7 | 10 |
6 | Montenegro | Greece | 0 | 2 |
12 | Norway | Bulgaria | 10 | 12 |
38 | Poland | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
27 | Portugal | Azerbaijan | n/a | 0 |
34 | Romania | The Netherlands | 6 | 10 |
3 | San Marino | Portugal | 12 | 2 |
23 | Serbia | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
36 | Slovenia | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
13 | Spain | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
1 | Sweden | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
28 | Switzerland | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
29 | The Netherlands | Portugal | 12 | 10 |
42 | Ukraine | Belarus | 10 | 0 |
39 | United Kingdom | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
| | | 382 | 278 |
Televoting
The complete list of 12 televote point scores and televote points awarded to Portugal (televote winner and outright winner) and Bulgaria (televote second place and overall second place) is shown below: From Country | 12 Points to | Tele to Portugal | Tele to Bulgaria |
Albania | Italy | 8 | 10 |
Armenia | Cyprus | 10 | 7 |
Australia | Moldova | 7 | 5 |
Austria | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
Azerbaijan | Bulgaria | 8 | 12 |
Belarus | Bulgaria | 7 | 12 |
Belgium | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
Bulgaria | France | 7 | n/a |
Croatia | Hungary | 10 | 8 |
Cyprus | Greece | 7 | 10 |
Czech Republic | Bulgaria | 8 | 12 |
Denmark | Sweden | 5 | 10 |
Estonia | Belgium | 10 | 7 |
F.Y.R. Macedonia | Bulgaria | 7 | 12 |
Finland | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
France | Portugal | 12 | 4 |
Georgia | Azerbaijan | 8 | 7 |
Germany | Portugal | 12 | 5 |
Greece | Cyprus | 8 | 10 |
Hungary | Bulgaria | 7 | 12 |
Iceland | Portugal | 12 | 4 |
Ireland | Romania | 10 | 6 |
Israel | Portugal | 12 | 10 |
Italy | Moldova | 5 | 8 |
Latvia | Belgium | 10 | 7 |
Lithuania | Portugal | 12 | 7 |
Malta | Italy | 8 | 10 |
Moldova | Romania | 6 | 8 |
Montenegro | Croatia | 8 | 6 |
Norway | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
Poland | Belgium | 10 | 8 |
Portugal | Moldova | n/a | 8 |
Romania | Moldova | 7 | 8 |
San Marino | Bulgaria | 7 | 12 |
Serbia | Hungary | 8 | 10 |
Slovenia | Croatia | 8 | 7 |
Spain | Portugal | 12 | 10 |
Sweden | Belgium | 10 | 7 |
Switzerland | Portugal | 12 | 6 |
The Netherlands | Portugal | 12 | 8 |
Ukraine | Moldova | 10 | 2 |
United Kingdom | Bulgaria | 8 | 12 |
| | 376 | 337 |
24 Points
Obviously the maximum combined score a country can give to, or receive from another country is 24 points, that being 12 jury points and 12 televoting points. 16 of the 42 voting countries gave their 12 jury points and 12 televoting points to the same finalist, those being: From Country | 12+12 Points to |
Albania | Italy |
Belarus | Bulgaria |
Croatia | Hungary |
Cyprus | Greece |
Denmark | Sweden |
F.Y.R. Macedonia | Bulgaria |
France | Portugal |
Greece | Cyprus |
Iceland | Portugal |
Israel | Portugal |
Lithuania | Portugal |
Malta | Italy |
Moldova | Romania |
Spain | Portugal |
Switzerland | Portugal |
The Netherlands | Portugal |
The number of 12 jury points +12 televoting points received by each of those 16 countries is summarised in the table below. Unsurprisingly the highest number of 24-point combined scores (7 altogether) was received by Portugal, who won overall with 758 points.
12+12 Points to | No of 24s Received | Total from 24s |
Bulgaria | 2 | 48 |
Cyprus | 1 | 24 |
Greece | 1 | 24 |
Hungary | 1 | 24 |
Italy | 2 | 48 |
Portugal | 7 | 168 |
Romania | 1 | 24 |
Sweden | 1 | 24 |
| 16 | 384 |
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Country Groups
Now for a look at points awarded within certain groups of countries.Nordic Area
Three of the five Nordic countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden) qualified for the Grand Final this year, but all five Nordic countries voted in the final as follows. Of course Finland and Iceland, which were eliminated in the semi-finals could only give, and not receive points this time.Jury Voting
From Country | To Denmark | To Norway | To Sweden |
Denmark | n/a | 6 | 12 |
Finland | 4 | 1 | 12 |
Iceland | 3 | 1 | 8 |
Norway | 8 | n/a | 6 |
Sweden | 5 | 0 | n/a |
TOTAL | 20 | 8 | 38 |
This table clearly shows a wide variation in the jury points which the five Nordic countries gave to the three Nordic finalists (of course Denmark, Norway and Sweden could not vote for themselves). Denmark and Finland both gave 12 jury points to Sweden, but Iceland gave only 8 jury points to Sweden and Norway gave only 6 jury points to Sweden. Denmark and Norway generally fared less well with jury points from the other Nordic countries; notice there are no 12s or even 10s in the To Denmark and To Norway columns. Interestingly Norway gave more jury points to Denmark than it did to Sweden; it gave 8 jury points to Denmark and 6 jury points to Sweden. Notice that Norway received the lowest total number of points from the other Nordic countries; Denmark gave 6 jury points to Norway, Finland and Iceland each gave 1 jury point to Norway and surprisingly Sweden gave no jury points at all to Norway.
Thus Denmark received 20 of its 69 jury points (28.99%) from this group, Norway received 8 of its 129 jury points (6.20%) from this group, and Sweden received 38 of its 218 jury points (17.43%) from this group. All this blew out of the window anyone's expectation of Denmark, Norway and Sweden giving their 10 and 12 jury points to each other, and the non-qualified Finland and Iceland giving their 8, 10 and 12 jury points to the three Nordic finalists.
Televoting
From Country | To Denmark | To Norway | To Sweden |
Denmark | n/a | 7 | 12 |
Finland | 0 | 2 | 6 |
Iceland | 0 | 1 | 8 |
Norway | 0 | n/a | 5 |
Sweden | 0 | 6 | n/a |
TOTAL | 0 | 16 | 31 |
Within this group, Norway did considerably better on televoting than jury voting, but Sweden fared slightly less well on televoting than it did on jury voting, and surprisingly Denmark received no televoting points at all from the other four Nordic countries (interestingly the 8 televoting points that Denmark ended up with were all from Australia).
Denmark gave 12 televoting points to Sweden and Iceland gave 8 televoting points to Sweden, just like in the jury voting. However Finland gave just 6 televoting points to Sweden and Norway gave 5 televoting points to Sweden (both lower than the jury voting equivalents). On the other hand, Sweden gave 6 televoting points to Norway, after giving no jury points to Norway. Thus Norway received 16 of its 29 televoting points (55.17%) from this group, and Sweden received 31 of its 126 televoting points (24.60%) from this group. Again this blew out of the window anyone's expectation of Denmark, Norway and Sweden giving their 10 and 12 televoting points to each other, and the non-qualified Finland and Iceland giving their 8, 10 and 12 televoting points to the three Nordic finalists.
Ex-Yugoslavia
Only one ex-Yugoslav country (Croatia) qualified for the Grand Final, which is why Croatia is omitted from the From Country column in the following tables. Of course, the other four ex-Yugoslav countries (F.Y.R. Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia) which took part in the semi-finals but failed to qualify still voted in the Grand Final, however they could only give and not receive jury and televoting points in the final.Jury Voting
From Country | To Croatia |
F.Y.R. Macedonia | 0 |
Montenegro | 5 |
Serbia | 0 |
Slovenia | 0 |
TOTAL | 5 |
Notice that only one country from this group awarded any jury points at all to Croatia, that being Montenegro whose jury gave Croatia 5 points. The other three ex-Yugoslav countries (F.Y.R. Macedonia, Serbia, Slovenia) gave no jury points at all to Croatia. Thus Croatia received just 5 of its 25 jury points (20%) from the other four participating ex-Yugoslav countries. Clearly this completely blew out of the window anyone's expectation of F.Y.R. Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia all giving their top jury points to Croatia.
Televoting
From Country | To Croatia |
F.Y.R. Macedonia | 10 |
Montenegro | 12 |
Serbia | 5 |
Slovenia | 12 |
TOTAL | 39 |
Within this group, Croatia fared considerably better in the televoting. Montenegro and Slovenia both gave their 12 televoting points to Croatia. However F.Y.R. Macedonia only gave 10 televoting points to Croatia, and Serbia gave just 5 televoting points to Croatia. Again this completely blew out of the window anyone's expectation of F.Y.R. Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia all giving their 12 televoting points to Croatia. Thus Croatia received 39 of its 103 televoting points (37.86%) from this group.
English Speaking Countries
Another group worth looking at here are the English speaking countries Australia, Ireland, Malta and the United Kingdom. Within this group, the United Kingdom automatically qualified for the Grand Final as a Big Five member. Of the other three countries which took part in the semi-finals, Australia qualified for the Grand Final, whereas Ireland and Malta both failed to qualify. Of course, Ireland and Malta still voted in the Grand Final, however they could only give and not receive jury and televoting points in the final.Jury Voting
From Country | To Australia | To United Kingdom |
Australia | n/a | 12 |
Ireland | 0 | 0 |
Malta | 0 | 0 |
United Kingdom | 10 | n/a |
TOTAL | 10 | 12 |
Notice that Australia gave its 12 jury points to the UK. However neither Ireland nor Malta gave any jury points at all to the UK this time. This came as a bit of a surprise (perhaps even a shock) to UK viewers, but it just goes to show, the UK is not guaranteed points from Ireland or Malta. In fact, the UK finished 16th in the Irish jury ranking and 19th in the Maltese jury ranking, both well away from the tenth place it takes to get just one point. The UK gave 10 jury points to Australia, whereas both Ireland and Malta gave no jury points at all to Australia. Thus Australia received just 10 of its 171 jury points from this group (5.85%) whereas the UK received just 12 of its 99 jury points (12.12%) from this group.
Televoting
From Country | To Australia | To United Kingdom |
Australia | n/a | 3 |
Ireland | 0 | 4 |
Malta | 0 | 4 |
United Kingdom | 0 | n/a |
TOTAL | 0 | 11 |
In stark contrast, Australia gave just 3 televoting points to the UK. On the other hand, both Ireland and Malta each gave the UK 4 televoting points, which was more than either of them gave the UK in the jury voting. Thus the UK received 11 of its 12 televoting points (91.67%) from this group. For the record, the UK's one remaining televote point was from Spain. Interestingly Australia received no televoting points at all from the Ireland, Malta or even the UK (and I personally would have thought the UK would be the one member of this group most likely to give televoting points to Australia). The 2 televoting points Australia ended up with were from Denmark.
Other
Cyprus gave its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to Greece. Likewise Greece gave its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to Cyprus.Belgium gave no jury points at all to The Netherlands and just 10 televote points to The Netherlands. This blew out of the window anyone's expectation of Belgium giving its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to The Netherlands. Belgium actually gave its 12 jury points to Sweden and its 12 televote points to Portugal.
The Netherlands gave just 2 jury points and just 10 televote points to Belgium. This blew out of the window anyone's expectation of The Netherlands giving its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to Belgium. Interestingly The Netherlands gave its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to Portugal.
Spain gave its 12 jury points and its 12 televote points to its neighbours Portugal, who ended up winning. However anyone expecting Portugal to be equally generous to Spain must have been disappointed because Portugal gave no jury points to Spain, and just 5 televote points to Spain (which ended up being the total number of televote points Spain scored altogether).
Perhaps the least friendly relationship between countries in 2017 is Armenia against Azerbaijan. All five members of the Armenian jury each ranked Azerbaijan 25th, thereby resulting in an overall jury rank of 25th for Azerbaijan (hence no jury points for Azerbaijan), and Azerbaijan finished 25th in the Armenian televote (hence no televote points for Azerbaijan). Likewise all five members of the Azeri jury each ranked Armenia 25th, thereby putting the overall jury rank for Armenia 25th (hence no jury points to Armenia) and Armenia finished 25th in the Azeri televote (hence no televote points for Armenia).
Points to United Kingdom
21 countries gave jury points to the UK, as follows: Calling country | Points to UK |
Australia | 12 |
Slovenia | 10 |
Albania | 8 |
Iceland | 7 |
Estonia | 6 |
Germany | 6 |
San Marino | 6 |
Cyprus | 5 |
Czech Republic | 5 |
Poland | 5 |
The Netherlands | 5 |
Armenia | 4 |
Latvia | 4 |
F.Y.R. Macedonia | 3 |
France | 3 |
Hungary | 3 |
Belgium | 2 |
Finland | 2 |
Austria | 1 |
Greece | 1 |
Norway | 1 |
TOTAL | 99 |
In stark contrast, only 4 countries gave televoting points to the UK as follows:
From Country | Points to UK |
Ireland | 4 |
Malta | 4 |
Australia | 3 |
Spain | 1 |
TOTAL | 12 |
Interestingly 3 of the countries which gave televoting points to the UK (Ireland, Malta, Spain) gave the UK no jury points. Consequently Australia was the only country to give the UK jury points and televoting points.
The number of times the UK received each particular points level in the jury voting and televoting is summarised in the following table:
Points Level | Jury to UK | UK Jury Points | Tele to UK | UK Tele Points |
0 | 20 | 0 | 37 | 0 |
1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
3 | 3 | 9 | 1 | 3 |
4 | 2 | 8 | 2 | 8 |
5 | 4 | 20 | 0 | 0 |
6 | 3 | 18 | 0 | 0 |
7 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
8 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 |
10 | 1 | 10 | 0 | 0 |
12 | 1 | 12 | 0 | 0 |
TOTAL | 41 | 99 | 41 | 12 |
Notice that the UK received at least one of each points level from the juries. That said, the UK only received one each of 7, 8, 10 and 12 points, as opposed to multiple instances of each points level from 1 to 6. On the other hand the UK's highest individual score on televoting was just 4 points.
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Jury and Televoting Comparison
A sortable table, with all the jury, televoting and final points and placings, is shown below. # | Finalist | Jury Points | Jury Place | Televote Points | Televote Place | Final Points | Final Place | Tele-Jury Pts Diff | Tele-Jury Place Diff |
20 | Romania | 58 | 15 | 224 | 5 | 282 | 7 | 166 | 10 |
7 | Moldova | 110 | 8 | 264 | 3 | 374 | 3 | 154 | 5 |
23 | Belgium | 108 | 9 | 255 | 4 | 363 | 4 | 147 | 5 |
8 | Hungary | 48 | 17 | 152 | 7 | 200 | 8 | 104 | 10 |
9 | Italy | 126 | 7 | 208 | 6 | 334 | 6 | 82 | 1 |
13 | Croatia | 25 | 22 | 103 | 9 | 128 | 13 | 78 | 13 |
25 | Bulgaria | 278 | 2 | 337 | 2 | 615 | 2 | 59 | 0 |
26 | France | 45 | 19 | 90 | 10 | 135 | 12 | 45 | 9 |
2 | Poland | 23 | 23 | 41 | 12 | 64 | 22 | 18 | 11 |
22 | Ukraine | 12 | 24 | 24 | 17 | 36 | 24 | 12 | 7 |
16 | Spain | 0 | 26 | 5 | 23 | 5 | 26 | 5 | 3 |
21 | Germany | 3 | 25 | 3 | 24 | 6 | 25 | 0 | 1 |
19 | Cyprus | 36 | 20 | 32 | 14 | 68 | 21 | -4 | 6 |
11 | Portugal | 382 | 1 | 376 | 1 | 758 | 1 | -6 | 0 |
3 | Belarus | 50 | 16 | 33 | 13 | 83 | 17 | -17 | 3 |
15 | Greece | 48 | 18 | 29 | 16 | 77 | 19 | -19 | 2 |
1 | Israel | 34 | 21 | 5 | 22 | 39 | 23 | -29 | -1 |
12 | Azerbaijan | 78 | 12 | 42 | 11 | 120 | 14 | -36 | 1 |
5 | Armenia | 58 | 14 | 21 | 18 | 79 | 18 | -37 | -4 |
10 | Denmark | 69 | 13 | 8 | 21 | 77 | 20 | -61 | -8 |
18 | United Kingdom | 99 | 10 | 12 | 20 | 111 | 15 | -87 | -10 |
24 | Sweden | 218 | 3 | 126 | 8 | 344 | 5 | -92 | -5 |
4 | Austria | 93 | 11 | 0 | 26 | 93 | 16 | -93 | -15 |
17 | Norway | 129 | 6 | 29 | 15 | 158 | 10 | -100 | -9 |
6 | The Netherlands | 135 | 5 | 15 | 19 | 150 | 11 | -120 | -14 |
14 | Australia | 171 | 4 | 2 | 25 | 173 | 9 | -169 | -21 |
N.B. Tele-Jury Pts Diff: the difference between the total number of televoting points and total number of jury points a country received. Calculated as follows: televoting points total - jury points total. Thus if a country received fewer televoting points than jury points (e.g. Australia) this is negative, if a country received more televoting points than jury points (e.g. Romania) this is positive.
Tele-Jury Place Diff: the difference between the televoting place and jury place of a country. Calculated as follows: jury place - televoting place. Sweden was 3rd in the jury voting and 8th in the televoting (5 places lower than jury voting, shown as -5). Moldova was 8th in the jury voting and 3rd in the televoting, (5 places higher than jury voting, shown as 5). Due to movement of other countries on the scoreboard, the actual from and to placings, and number of places which a particular country e.g. Sweden moved on the scoreboard at the moment its televoting total was announced may have been different.
Of the countries that received more televote points than jury points, the country with the biggest points difference is Romania. Its televoting total of 224 points was 166 points higher than the 58 points it received from the juries. Although Romania received just one more 12-point score on televoting than on jury voting, it received considerably more 10, 7, 6 and even 4 point scores on televoting than jury voting, all of which led to its televoting total being 166 points higher than its jury total. In addition, its televoting place of 5th was 10 places higher than its jury place of 15th (surprisingly though, that wasn't the biggest place difference of the countries which placed higher on televoting than jury voting). Once all the televoting scores were added, Romania finished 7th overall with 282 points.
Points Level | Jury to Romania | Romania Jury Pts | Tele to Romania | Romania Tele Pts |
0 | 30 | 0 | 3 | 0 |
1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
2 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 8 |
3 | 4 | 12 | 3 | 9 |
4 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 24 |
5 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 10 |
6 | 1 | 6 | 8 | 48 |
7 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 42 |
8 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 8 |
10 | 1 | 10 | 5 | 50 |
12 | 1 | 12 | 2 | 24 |
TOTAL | 41 | 58 | 41 | 224 |
Bulgaria, which finished second in the jury vote, second in the televote and second overall, also received considerably more points on televoting than jury voting. Its televoting total of 337 points was 59 points higher than the 278 points it received from the juries. As can be seen in the following table, although Bulgaria received no jury points at all from three countries, Bulgaria received televoting points from every other country. Notice how Bulgaria received more 7, 8 and 12 point scores on televoting than on jury voting, all of which led to its televote total being considerably higher than its jury point total.
Points Level | Jury to Bulgaria | Bulgaria Jury Pts | Tele to Bulgaria | Bulgaria Tele Pts |
0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
2 | 6 | 12 | 1 | 2 |
3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
4 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 8 |
5 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 10 |
6 | 6 | 36 | 3 | 18 |
7 | 5 | 35 | 9 | 63 |
8 | 6 | 48 | 9 | 72 |
10 | 9 | 90 | 8 | 80 |
12 | 4 | 48 | 7 | 84 |
TOTAL | 41 | 278 | 41 | 337 |
Now for a country which received fewer televoting points than jury points. The country with the biggest difference overall between jury and televoting points and placing is Australia. Firstly it had the biggest points difference of all among the countries that received fewer points on televoting than jury voting. It received just 2 points in the televoting, which was 169 points lower than the 171 points it received from the juries. Whereas 29 countries gave jury points to Australia, only one country gave any televote points at all to Australia, that being Denmark which gave 2 televote points to Australia. In addition, its televoting place of 25th was a whopping 21 places lower than its jury place of 4th, which was the largest place difference of countries that placed lower on televoting than jury voting. No country had a place difference of this magnitude higher on televoting than jury voting.
Points Level | Jury to Australia | Australia Jury Pts | Tele to Australia | Australia Tele Pts |
0 | 12 | 0 | 40 | 0 |
1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
2 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 |
3 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 |
4 | 6 | 24 | 0 | 0 |
5 | 3 | 15 | 0 | 0 |
6 | 2 | 12 | 0 | 0 |
7 | 5 | 35 | 0 | 0 |
8 | 3 | 24 | 0 | 0 |
10 | 5 | 50 | 0 | 0 |
12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
TOTAL | 41 | 171 | 41 | 2 |
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Alternative Voting Presentation
During the Eurovision Song Contest 2017 Grand Final, the jury voting points from each of the participating 42 countries (including the 16 non-qualifiers) were presented in the traditional way, i.e. for each country the 1 to 10 point scores were displayed on screen when the spokesperson appeared, added to the scoreboard as a block and the spokesperson announced the 12 point score. The voting order was: Sweden, Azerbaijan, San Marino, Latvia, Israel, Montenegro, Albania, Malta, F.Y.R. Macedonia, Denmark, Austria, Norway, Spain, Finland, France, Greece, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Armenia, Bulgaria, Iceland, Serbia, Australia, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Ireland, Georgia, Cyprus, Belarus, Romania, Hungary, Slovenia, Belgium, Poland, United Kingdom, Croatia, Czech Republic, Ukraine.This whole process took about 35 minutes. After a short break the televoting totals for each of the 26 finalists were announced. Oleksandr Skichko and Volodymyr Ostapchuk announced the bottom 16 countries of the televote, from 26th to 11th, in rapid succession. The top ten countries of the televote, from 10th to 1st, were announced at a considerably slower pace, with a Green Room shot of the applicable artist as each country was announced. This process, from start to finish, took about 9 minutes.
What would have happened if the televoting points from each calling country had been announced by the 42 spokespersons first? Let's assume the order of presentation was the same as was used for announcement of the jury points, as specified above.
A few things are obvious:
Portugal would have finished 1st with 376 points and Bulgaria would have finished 2nd with 337 points (a margin of 39 points).
The United Kingdom would have received points only four times (4 from Malta, 1 from Spain, 3 from Australia, 4 from Ireland), and ended up 20th with just 12 points.
The lowest placed country to have received televote points from multiple countries would have been Israel, which finished 22nd with 5 points (1 from Azerbaijan, 1 from F.Y.R. Macedonia, 3 from France).
Four countries would have only appeared once during the voting procedure, those being Denmark (8 from Australia), Spain (5 from Portugal), Germany (3 from Switzerland), Australia (2 from Denmark).
Austria wouldn't have received any points at all as the 42 spokespersons announced the televoting points, and thus finished last with nul points.
At the end, viewers would have seen, at a glance, the bottom six countries had less than 10 points each, which is unusually high.
The following are speculated. Although all the jury points and televoting points each of the 42 countries awarded to the finalists are available on eurovision.tv, the only way to confirm the following would be able to create a graphic simulation of the scoreboard, starting with the finalists on zero in the order they performed, and each of the 42 countries' televoting points (1 to 12) being added in the order mentioned above.
For some of the voting a "cat and mouse" situation might have occurred between Portugal and Bulgaria.
From some point, Portugal would almost certainly have held its lead to the end.
At some point Portugal would almost certainly have become uncatchable on televoting points alone. However due to the smaller final margin (39 points) between Portugal and Bulgaria on televoting than the 104 points margin between Portugal and Bulgaria on the jury voting, this would have happened considerably later in the voting procedure (possibly only 2 or 3 countries before the end) than when Portugal became uncatchable on jury points alone during the show (after Slovenia, 36th to call, had announced its jury points).
Once all 42 spokespersons had finished announcing their televoting points, the scoreboard would have looked like this.
Portugal | 376 | Cyprus | 32 |
Bulgaria | 337 | Norway | 29 |
Moldova | 264 | Greece | 29 |
Belgium | 255 | Ukraine | 24 |
Romania | 224 | Armenia | 21 |
Italy | 208 | The Netherlands | 15 |
Hungary | 152 | United Kingdom | 12 |
Sweden | 126 | Denmark | 8 |
Croatia | 103 | Israel | 5 |
France | 90 | Spain | 5 |
Azerbaijan | 42 | Germany | 3 |
Poland | 41 | Australia | 2 |
Belarus | 33 | Austria | 0 |
Afterwards Oleksandr and Volodymyr would have announced the jury totals for each of the 26 finalists, starting with the bottom 16 from 26th to 11th, in rapid succession, as follows: N.B. I have simulated the procedure by putting the jury totals alongside the televoting totals into a spreadsheet and sorting it as each jury total was added. This is how I've been able to describe country movements on the scoreboard. To see all the simultaneous movements by multiple counties as each jury total would have been read out, one would need an animated graphic simulation of the scoreboard.
With 0 points it is Spain (taking them to 22nd initially)
With 3 points it is Germany (taking them to 22nd initially)
With 12 points it is Ukraine (taking them to 13th initially)
With 23 points it is Poland (taking them 11th initially)
With 25 points it is Croatia (taking them to 8th initially)
With 34 points it is Israel (taking them to 13th initially)
36 points to Cyprus (taking them to 11th initially)
45 points to France (taking them to 8th initially)
48 points to Greece (taking them 11th initially)
48 points also to Hungary (keeping them, for now, at their original televote placing of 7th)
With 50 points it is Belarus (taking them 11th initially)
With 58 points it is Romania (taking them to 3rd initially)
With the same amount of points of 58 it is Armenia (taking them 12th initially)
With 69 points it is Denmark (taking them 14th initially)
With 78 points it is Azerbaijan (taking them back to their original televote placing of 11th initially)
With 93 points it is Austria (taking them from bottom to 12th initially, and thus pushing Australia to bottom)
The scoreboard would have looked like this after the bottom 16 jury totals were announced.
Portugal | 376 | Armenia | 79 |
Bulgaria | 337 | Greece | 77 |
Romania | 282 | Denmark | 77 |
Moldova | 264 | Cyprus | 68 |
Belgium | 255 | Poland | 64 |
Italy | 208 | Israel | 39 |
Hungary | 200 | Ukraine | 36 |
France | 135 | Norway | 29 |
Croatia | 128 | The Netherlands | 15 |
Sweden | 126 | United Kingdom | 12 |
Azerbaijan | 120 | Germany | 6 |
Austria | 93 | Spain | 5 |
Belarus | 83 | Australia | 2 |
The countries placed 10th to 5th would have been announced at a much slower pace. Volodymyr and Oleksandr would have announced the recipients of the top ten scores alternately. Each time the applicable country's score would have been updated and repositioned on the scoreboard, and viewers would have seen a brief shot of the applicable artist in the Green Room.
The country that got the 10th highest score, with 99 points is the United Kingdom. Its score would have increased considerably, from its televoting total of just 12 points to its final score of 111 points. Having dropped from its original televoting place of 20th to its current intermediate place of 23rd, it would have climbed momentarily to 12th place (near the bottom of the left hand side of the scoreboard).
At this point Graham Norton would undoubtedly have shown a moment's excitement and said something like "Look, we're on the left hand side of the scoreboard, quick, take a picture" to UK viewers. However soon afterwards he would almost certainly have said "I'm afraid I've done the maths and we're (the UK) going to be pushed back to the right hand side of the scoreboard, but quite high on it". Even if Norway and The Netherlands both also got 99 jury points (just like the UK) they would have leapfrogged the UK with final totals of 128 and 114 respectively. The only country still to get its jury points which could still have stayed below the UK was Australia, provided it received no more than 108 jury points.
The country that got the 9th highest score, with 108 points is Belgium. This would have taken them to 2nd initially.
The country that got the 8th highest score, with 110 points is Moldova. This would have taken them to 2nd initially.
The country that got the 7th highest score, with 126 points is Italy. This would have taken them to 5th initially.
The country that got the 6th highest score, with 129 points is Norway. Its score would have increased considerably, from its televoting total of just 29 points to its final score of 158 points. Having dropped from its original televoting place of 15th to its current intermediate place of 22nd, it would have climbed momentarily to 8th place. As a consequence, the United Kingdom would have been pushed down to 13th (bottom of the left hand side of the scoreboard).
The country that got the 5th highest score, with 135 points is The Netherlands. Its score would have increased considerably, from its televoting total of just 15 points to its final score of 150 points. Having dropped from its original televoting place of 19th to its current intermediate place of 23rd, it would have climbed momentarily to 9th place. As a consequence, the United Kingdom would have pushed down to 14th (back on the right hand side of the scoreboard, albeit top of that side).
At this point the scoreboard would have looked like this:
Portugal | 376 | United Kingdom | 111 |
Moldova | 374 | Austria | 93 |
Belgium | 363 | Belarus | 83 |
Bulgaria | 337 | Armenia | 79 |
Italy | 334 | Greece | 77 |
Romania | 282 | Denmark | 77 |
Hungary | 200 | Cyprus | 68 |
Norway | 158 | Poland | 64 |
The Netherlands | 150 | Israel | 39 |
France | 135 | Ukraine | 36 |
Croatia | 128 | Germany | 6 |
Sweden | 126 | Spain | 5 |
Azerbaijan | 120 | Australia | 2 |
With just four countries (Portugal, Bulgaria, Sweden, Australia) still awaiting their jury points, Portugal would still have been in the lead on 376 points. Green Room shots of the artists representing these countries would have been briefly displayed one by one. The lowest possible jury total Portugal could now get, if it was called next (fourth in the jury vote) would be 135 jury points (just like The Netherlands), which would have put its final score at 511 points. On the other hand, if Australia won the jury vote with the maximum possible score of 492, its combined total would be 494. Graham Norton would probably have figured this out and said "If Australia gets the maximum possible jury score of 492 it won't affect anything".
The next four countries would have been announced in the same manner as those placed 10th to 5th, but at an even slower pace. Oleksandr would have announced all the remaining totals and Volodymyr would have given additional comments in between.
Oleksandr: "The country that got the 4th highest score, with 171 points is Australia." Suddenly Australia would have shot up the scoreboard from the bottom with just 2 points to an interim placing of 8th with 173 points. Graham Norton would probably have said "OK that's irrelevant, extraordinary but irrelevant. Euro nerds are going to have a field day analysing these votes."
With just three countries left to receive their televoting totals, (Portugal, Bulgaria, Sweden), Green Room shots of artists representing these countries would have been briefly displayed in windows across the screen.
At this point Graham Norton would probably have said "I wonder if Sweden could still win if it gets a really big score from the juries". The lowest possible jury total Portugal could now get, if it was called next (third in the jury vote) would be 171 jury points (just like Australia), which would have put its final score at 547 points. That would have left 707 jury points to split between Bulgaria and Sweden, neither of whom could possibly score more than 492 (12 points from each of the other 41 countries). The minimum jury total Bulgaria could thus have received for finishing second in the jury vote would have been 215 jury points, taking its final total to 552 points and putting it in the lead for now (and Portugal to second place). That would have left 492 jury points for Sweden, which would have been more than enough to pass Bulgaria and win. That would have been an extremely unlikely alternative scenario (maybe mathematically impossible), because even if all the 12 jury points that went to Portugal and Bulgaria had gone to Sweden instead, the one or two 12 jury points scores given to twelve other countries would have had to have gone to Sweden instead, thereby affecting their jury totals.
Oleksandr: "The country that got the 3rd highest score, with 218 points is Sweden." Having originally placed 8th in the public vote, and gradually dropped to 13th, this would have taken Sweden to 4th place for now with a final score of 344 points. All countries below Bulgaria (currently at 5th place) would have now been at their final placings.
With just Portugal and Bulgaria left to receive their jury totals, Green Room shots of the artists representing these countries would have been briefly displayed in windows side by side on screen.
Volodymyr: So there are only two countries left to receive their points from the national juries. The two top songs, according to the juries, are Portugal and Bulgaria. Will they get enough points right now, and who will win the Contest this year?
Oleksandr: "The country that got the 2nd highest score, with 278 points is Bulgaria." This would have put Bulgaria in the lead with 615 points, and Portugal in second place, for now. Since Portugal would now receive at least 278 points from the juries (just like Bulgaria), its final score would now be at least 654 points. Whatever happened next, Portugal was guaranteed to win outright. Graham Norton would, no doubt, have said "It's all over!"
Oleksandr: … and this actually means that we have our winner. Tonight we still have 382 points for Portugal, and that means that Portugal is the winner of Eurovision Song Contest 2017. Its final score would have been 758 points.
Once Portugal's televoting points were added, the final scoreboard would have looked like this.
Portugal | 758 | Azerbaijan | 120 |
Bulgaria | 615 | United Kingdom | 111 |
Moldova | 374 | Austria | 93 |
Belgium | 363 | Belarus | 83 |
Sweden | 344 | Armenia | 79 |
Italy | 334 | Greece | 77 |
Romania | 282 | Denmark | 77 |
Hungary | 200 | Cyprus | 68 |
Australia | 173 | Poland | 64 |
Norway | 158 | Israel | 39 |
The Netherlands | 150 | Ukraine | 36 |
France | 135 | Germany | 6 |
Croatia | 128 | Spain | 5 |
The biggest surprise would have been seeing Australia finish 4th in the jury vote with 171 points after originally placing second last with just 2 points in the televote. Having shot up the scoreboard to an interim placing of 8th place it would have eventually finished 9th once all the televote totals were added to the scoreboard.
Overall, the time taken to announce the 42 sets of televoting points followed by the 26 finalists' jury totals would have been about the same; in this case about 35 minutes for the 42 sets of televoting points and 9 minutes for the 26 jury voting totals. However it's important to remember, that viewers voted by phone, text or app during the live grand final Saturday 13 May 2017, whereas juries voted during the dress rehearsal the previous evening. Almost immediately after the public voting lines closed, Jon Ola Sand stated that the EBU had a valid result from the 42 professional juries and, without further ado, the presentation of the jury results in the traditional manner began. However the EBU must have needed more time to validate and verify the televoting results, especially votes cast in the last five minutes of the lines being open, which must have been done during the 35 minute presentation of the jury votes. Once all 42 spokespersons had announced the jury results, Jon Ola Sand stated that the televoting had gone according to plan, and the EBU had a 100% correct result, so the presentation of the televoting totals followed. Announcing the televoting scores in the traditional manner (by 42 spokespersons) first would have delayed the start of the scoring procedure considerably (perhaps as much as 20 to 30 minutes), thereby necessitating further interval acts. Alternatively NTU and the EBU may have decided a better option would be to suspend the broadcast for the required time of 20 to 30 minutes, to allow national broadcasters to air their own filler programme (e.g. news bulletin) before returning to the Eurovision Song Contest 2017 Grand Final for the start of the televoting results.
At this point individual countries would have been able to announce their own national jury points. Graham Norton would almost certainly have read out the UK's national jury results to UK viewers.
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Conclusion
This was only the second time the two-part voting system first introduced in 2016 was used. Once again, it certainly produced some shocks and surprises, and plenty for keen fans to analyse well after the winner was announced. Once again, as a UK citizen, I was naturally disappointed that the UK finished 20th with just 12 points in the televoting after finishing 10th with 99 jury points, and hence 15th with 111 points overall. Having got 99 jury points, I hoped the UK would get just as many, if not more televoting points, and end up on the left hand side of the scoreboard. Nonetheless, I'm glad the UK did better in both points and placing compared to last year in jury voting, televoting and overall.Last year saw Australia win the jury voting (but finish just fourth in the televoting), Russia win the televoting (but finish fifth place in the jury voting), and Ukraine win outright after finishing second in both jury and televoting. That clearly demonstrated that winning one part of the voting (jury voting or televoting) and finishing fourth or fifth in the other may not be enough to win outright, especially if another country finishes second in both parts. This year saw Portugal win both the jury voting and televoting, and thus win outright. Two totally different scenarios in two consecutive years! Time will tell what happens if country A wins jury voting and finishes second or third in televoting, whereas country B wins televoting and finishes second or third in jury voting.
Last year Poland finished 25th with just 7 points in the jury voting, but 3rd with a colossal 222 points in the televoting, and thus 8th place and 229 points overall. This year saw an opposite scenario of that when Australia finished 4th with 171 points in the jury voting but 25th (second-last) with just 2 points in the televoting, and thus 9th place with 173 points overall. Basically this can be generalised as finishing bottom two with a single digit score in one system, and third / fourth with a three-figure score in the range 170 to 230 on the other system. One thing is certain, if the EBU keeps the same voting system next year and beyond, extreme disparities between jury and public voting will occur again. It's only a matter of time before a country wins one system (jury or televoting) with a record-breaking score for one set of points alone (388 or more) and finishes last with nul points in the other system.
This year saw one country (Spain) score nul points on the jury voting and another country (Austria) score nul points on the televoting. To be fair, Spain also finished 23rd with just 5 points (all of which were from Portugal) in the televoting and thus last place with 5 points overall. However last place with nul points for Austria in the televoting must have been heart-breaking after scoring a well-deserved 11th place with 93 points in the jury vote. This result must have been far more disappointing than Czech Republic finishing last with nul points in the televoting after scoring 21st with 41 points in the jury voting in 2016. That said Austria's combined placing in the 2017 Grand Final was 16th with 93 points, which is obviously better than Czech Republic's combined result of 25th place and 41 points in 2016. Looking to the future, it's only a matter of time before one country scores nul points on both systems and hence a combined score of nul points.
With all this in mind, after two years of this two-part voting system being used, I still like this system very much, and feel it's perfectly fair. I hope the EBU continues using this system in 2018 and beyond. The announcement of the televoting totals adds to the excitement of the scoring procedure; in fact I think it's the highlight of the entire Grand Final. Mark my words, next year's Eurovision Song Contest will tell another story as far as the jury and public results are concerned.
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